Did you hear Maggie Gyllenhaal got her titty out in public? What a dirty slut! Who does she think she is, being all indecent in public like that?! I’m so tired of these stars who just flounce around half-naked all the time, parading their naughty bits in front of the paparazzi like the filthy whores that they are!
Oh. You mean, she was just having a quiet private moment with her beautiful and evidently hungry baby?
Well.
She’s still a dirty slut!
Erica Barnett finds some charming comments in response to what a sensible person would likely regard as a rather inoffensive and lovely picture of mother and daughter. Or, you know, a vomit-inducing display of hideousness: “Guess I’m a jerk, cuz it’s gross. It’s not the nudeness, it’s the smelly body fluid of someone else I don’t want to see. Why doesn’t she just change her rag in public too, after all that’s part of that natural process that produced her little bundle of joy, right? And I breast fed my kid for a year, but I didn’t force it one [sic] those who didn’t want to be part of it. I’ve had women whip it out next to me in restaurants and I nearly vomited on them. I don’t want their kid puking up body fluids next to me while I’m eating. Keep it at home or go somewhere private.”
My personal favorite is probably: “You can express your milk and feed your baby with a bottle in public [I did this for 14months], you can bring a bottle of formula, you can use a blanket, you can time your outings better, you do not need to flash your breasts for everyone to see, it’s unecessary [sic] and definitely rude and impolite.”
Yeah! There’s nothing I hate more than rude and impolite breast-flashers!
Anyway, this reminds me of the horrendo hubbub over the Babytalk magazine cover that featured a picture of a nursing baby, which generated a record-setting 700+ letters to the magazine and prompted a poll in which 4,000 of their readers categorized the image as “inappropriate.”
<—— Inappropriate!
The Boobophobes Gone Wild had this to say about the inappropriate cover:
“I was SHOCKED to see a giant breast on the cover of your magazine.”
…“I immediately turned the magazine face down.”
…“Gross, I am sick of seeing a baby attached to a boob.”
…“I shredded it. A breast is a breast — it’s a sexual thing. [My 13-yeard-old son] didn’t need to see that.”
(He’s gonna someday, honey. Unless he wants to see cock, in which case, something tells me you’ll start praying he wants to look at titties.)
“I respect it and think women have the right,” says Kreutz, 34, of Bozeman, Montana. “But personally, it makes me really uncomfortable.”
“I just think it’s one of those moments that should stay between a mother and her child.”
Said a mother of two, who didn’t breastfeed her children in public, apparently blessed with infants whose hunger unfailingly coincided with the opportunity for discretion.
“I don’t want my son or husband to accidentally see a breast they didn’t want to see.”
Bullshit. You don’t want either of them seeing a breast you don’t want them to see.
Women who react with horror at public breastfeeding infuriate me endlessly, because they’re just promulgating the sexualization of the nursing breast, which is what creates this whole dynamic in the first place. They’re almost inevitably prudes who believe our bodies are to be secreted away lest Jesus weep, but if the Almighty had a problem with women getting their tits out in public, then he would have put our nipples on our thumbs.
Honestly, this issue is enough to drive me right around the frigging bend.
There are people who are uncomfortable with seeing women breastfeed in public, people who are not evil or intolerant or think boobies are dirty—they just get a little squigged out by it. But most of them don’t think nursing in public should be banned, and I bet most of them wouldn’t have the slightest objection to the picture of Maggie Gyllenhaal or the Babytalk magazine cover, either. It tends to be men and women who are extremely conservative, who worry about boys and men seeing errant breasts in public, who think that the body is sacred but its functions aren’t, who rail against stem cell research and abortion because “every life is precious” but don’t care to see that precious life being nurtured.
Tiresome, that lot.
Shakesville 
It’s just a devil titty / With evil on its’ mind / Beware the devil titty / It’s gonna get you from behind
It boggles the mind that people are this stupid.
Of course, then there are the women who talk about how glad they are that they don’t have to raise a girl or how they don’t like little girls for “fill in the blank reason”.
WTF? What kind of internalized misogyny results in WOMEN treating little girls as less than?
Sorry for the OT rant, but it seemed related.
I can appreciate your frustration. Frankly, that photo elicits a nearly audible shrug on my part. BFD, y’know?
Stupid Puritans.
Hey! The Puritans breastfed too!
No doubt their saucy movie stars did as well.
“I don’t want my son or husband to accidentally see a breast they didn’t want to see.”
How many (straight) men are going to cop to ever not wanting to see breasts? And as Sis pointed out, if maybe they were more interested in seeing the male form – holy handgrenades Batman, maybe them Ta-Tas aren’t so bad after all……
OT, but what the hell – anyone remember a performance artist named John Sex in the mid-80’s? Now THERE were some good shows! I last saw him at The Metro – Johns Sex & the Bodaceous Ta-Tas. Dems de days…..
A few years ago, when I was working in the shoe store, we had this one customer come in who breastfed her kid in a very unique way — she had the kid lying down on her lap, and then she pulled out her boob, leaned over a bit to position it properly, and then squeezed the nipple for the child.
It was very weird and unusual, and I have to admit I was more than a little grossed out by the sight. As she was a customer, though, I kept my mouth shut.
A.) I think it is nice to see a celebrity demonstrating that they don’t all just hand their kids over to nannies and avoid anything that might further alter the look of their bodies.
B.) I’m a children’s librarian, and so I spend a decent portion of my work time doing storytimes and classes for preschool-aged children and their parents. I have to admit it took me aback the first time a nursing mom whipped out her boob and started feeding the baby during storytime, but that was partly because the little glutton was so loud I kept chuckling and interupting myself! While I would object to seeing an adult sucking another adult’s nipple in public (male or female)for the purpose of public display of affection is one thing, nipple sucking for the purpose of nutrition is something different altogether, IMO.
C.) I’ve never understood why women’s nipples are verboten while men’s nipples are OK for public viewing. When I was taking karate classes, my boyfriend at the time asked me to go put a shirt on since working out in my gi pants and a sports bra was disrespectful…he was shirtless at the time, the irony completely escaped him, and the other guys working out all said they thought it was just fine that I worked out without a shirt (and I have to admit that if someone was admiring my cleavage instead of blocking my kick, I took advantage of it).
Hey! The Puritans breastfed too!
No doubt their saucy movie stars did as well.
Natch. I was more referring to the obsession with Keeping! Bodies! Covered! Especially if they’re *gasp!* female bodies! Seems a large segment of the rest of the world doesn’t have that problem. People getting weirded out by it is understandable but mostly insofar as they learned it from the culture they grew up in.
I don’t usually love Bill Maher, but he did make a good observation about the US v. France regarding nude beaches the other night, “France, unlike us, is not a nation of six year olds who giggle and fall on the floor if they see pee-pee parts”.
This pretty much sums up the difference between the US and rest of the world.
God I miss being able to read and comment on this blog all day.
SHIT! Work sucks like a baby.
if the Almighty had a problem with women getting their tits out in public, then he would have put our nipples on our thumbs.
This should be a bumpersticker.
I have very little patience for people whose minds turn such a beautiful, natural, nurturing act into something gross and dirty and sexual. Surround me with women nursing their babies and I’ll smile ear-to-ear as I eat my soup. Surround me with pea-brained prisses wrinkling their noses at them and I’m likely to wanna puke on their shoes.
These people don’t just loathe women, they loathe the fact that people are biological organisms. Which means that they hate people, hate life, and worship death.
May I just give a shout-out for the late Lawton Chiles, former governor of Florida? Because he signed the first law in the nation that protected nursing mothers from any sort of discrimination or prosecution, and many states then followed suit. (Rumor has it Gov. Chiles’ daughter, a health-minded and progressive mother, helped raise awareness of the issue).
Prior to that law’s passage, women could technically be arrested for nudity or asked to leave establishments like stores or restaurants if they breast-fed in the open.
Prior to that law’s passage, I had the first of my three babies to feed, and damn it, there was no fucking way I was going to take him into the ladies’ room like some other mothers did back then (early 90’s). It’s really easy to be discreet, if you’re worried (I was both discreet and completely unconcerned what others thought, btw). If anyone looked sideways, I always said, “You wouldn’t eat a sandwich in the toilet, so why should he be expected to have his lunch there?”
Funny, but when they’re normal-sized (which is not exactly va-va-voom-esque), men with whom I’m talking tend to look at breasts first, then my eyes (a universal complaint, I know–women friends of all ages confirm this male weirdness, and even the husband says, Hey, if there are tits, I’m gonna look…). BUT, when I was walking around with twin milk silos exploding from my rangy frame–so enormous were those babies, in fact, they dwarfed the actual babies attached to them–every guy around averted his glance.
Good for Maggie G. nursing her baby. I hope she keeps at it (it can be tricky when the little bastards grow opposing teeth).
Hey Shakes,
You know that scene in Fried Green Tomatoes? txrad and I both simultaneously said, “that’s gotta be Shakes’ favorite scene in the movie.”
Sorry, we’re still obsessed over the “wobbly tummy” in the French & Saunders clip. I’ll grow out of it someday.
fiat_lux: That’s called “expressing milk” and is often done to provide the baby with nutrition when the baby has trouble latching on and sucking milk on its own.
You know that scene in Fried Green Tomatoes?
Which scene…?
(I love that movie, btw.)
Conservatives hate being human. “Expressing milk?” How about expressing huanity.
Maggie is welcome to flash her Devil tittie at my home or in my presence anytime she wants to.
If these people are that freaking hard up for something to be offended by, why don’t they just watch the next presser from the white house.
Get a life assholes.
I either don’t go places where women do this, or it’s not as common of a practice in Oklahoma. I’ve never seen a woman breastfeed in public here.
I also don’t know if we have anti-discrimination laws about that, either. Seeing as Oklahoma is shifted to the right of at least half the nation, I’d guess we don’t.
We had a family friend who breast-fed her boy in public ’till he was like six or something. She’d be standing there having a conversation and The Milkman would run up, pull out her tit and latch right on!
People who didn’t know them would pass anvils. I used to love it for the reactions
I don’t object to public breast feeding, but I don’t think it’s too much to ask for a little discretion. And by discretion I just mean throwing a towel or blanket over the whole proceeding. It’s not that I think there’s anything dirty about it, it’s just that I think it’s something private. Like a TMI. It can be a violation to be suddenly thrust into intimacy with someone against one’s will and exposing a body part that is typically kept covered is an intimate act. And I don’t mean “intimate” as a euphemism for “sexual”. It’s just that every relationship you have with every person you encounter has certain parameters, and it can be rude to violate those parameters.
I don’t object to public breast feeding, but I don’t think it’s too much to ask for a little discretion. And by discretion I just mean throwing a towel or blanket over the whole proceeding. It’s not that I think there’s anything dirty about it, it’s just that I think it’s something private. Like a TMI. It can be a violation to be suddenly thrust into intimacy with someone against one’s will and exposing a body part that is typically kept covered is an intimate act. And I don’t mean “intimate” as a euphemism for “sexual”. It’s just that every relationship you have with every person you encounter has certain parameters, and it can be rude to violate those parameters.
Greg, not all infants take kindly to having their heads & faces covered, and since at least part of the objective is to keep them from screaming bloody murder…
Ah, well… Maher was right about American immaturity.
The first time I, Innocent little American boy that I was at the time, (Well…Perhaps not so innocent.) ever witnessed such a display was on a train from Seville to Madrid way back in the 50s. Lady came in with baby, looked at me like she was scared shitless, (Foriegners were rare as hens teeth in Spain in those days.) then sat down and whipped out the old lunch sack and started giving little Paco his din dins and at the same time never taking her eyes off me as if she feared I was going to want to have some too. (Who knows what stories they had been told about Yanks back then.) This traumatized me horribly and since that episode I have never seen a tit I didn’t immediately want to suck on. Think I’ll ever get overit? (I’ll soon be 73 so I have my doubts.)
I don’t object to public breast feeding, but I don’t think it’s too much to ask for a little discretion.
Yeah, I mean, the way Maggie G. is waving that tit around with the baby hanging on for dear life, jumping up and down and screaming “LOOK AT ME!!” in the picture shows just how indiscreet she is.
Good on her. I see women doing the same thing in the staff meal room at work and nobody gives a shit.
One solution would be to shut women behind closed walls 24/7.
Oh, that’s being done, isn’t it?
I just see this whole ridiculous reaction against public breastfeeding to be a lesser version of purdah. It’s all about control over women’s bodies.
To add my 3 cents worth, I was a breastfeeding militant and nursed my (now grown) daughter til she was 3. I was discreet in public, but my feeling was, “This is one of the best things I can do for my daughter, don’t you even think of criticising it.”
Women complain about breast feeding in public? I already have enough trouble understanding guys not wanting to see it (most men like boobs, right?) but women as well? And breasts are ‘a sexual thing’? Well, yeah, if you want them to be. So are feet. WTF? Man, some people need to get a life. These people sound like the same type that form home owners associations and then sue when someone paints the trim the wrong color.
I want to know what level of technology these people are using. My computer screens and print publications, and the televisions I see, wouldn’t enable me to smell breast milk–or flowers, or a nice Cajun meal on a cooking show–when the photographs are displayed, or even on a live broadcast when the nursing mother, or the lilacs, or the cooking, are happening right then in front of the camera.
Breastfeeding? Whatever.
It’s the ones who use it to attention-whore: the whole You Will Fall To Your Knees And Fervently Worship My Holy Lactating Maternity.
Bleah. Get over yourself.
It’s the ones who use it to attention-whore
I have to say I’ve never seen a breastfeeding mother trying to be an attention whore. In fact, almost always, I see a woman looking somewhere between mildly embarrassed and totally ashamed, trying to hide her boob and her baby, and avert the nasty glances of strangers who seem personally offended she didn’t bother to dig herself a hole to crawl into before she started feeding her hungry child.
I live in Mexico. Over the weekend, on the metro there were 3 or 4 women breastfeeding. It is not a big deal here (ON THE METRO) and this society is incredibly misogynistic!
Yeesh. What do you bet that all the people who get tetchy about breast feeding are also the ones who touch pregnant women’s abdomens without permission and who wax rapsodic about the miracle of birth?
I keep picturing all the medieval and Renaissance paintings of the Virgin Mary and her son – quite frequently, she’s bare-breasted and squirting – yes, squirting – milk into the Christ child’s mouth.
It’s just a breast, people. Get over it.
(For a full sense of how ridiculous people can be about female breasts – or, in this case, a woman’s complete lack of them due to cancer surgery – read this by Twisty.)
read this by Twisty
That’s such an awesome post.
CNN removed the article with the baby attached to boob phot, Melissa! My god, it’s unbelievable. These people would rather watch war porn than a baby getting nourished by his or her mother.
CNN removed the article
Oh good lord.
Well, I’ll let the dead link stand so everyone can see what wankers CNN are.
I don’t object to public breast feeding, but I don’t think it’s too much to ask for a little discretion.
Is it too much to ask for you to look away if it bothers you that much?
My daughter, who I breastfed on demand, was very sensitive to overheating. I tried the whole “under the blanket” thing and it was damned hot under there. Nevermind that it’s difficult enough trying to manage the baby, the boob, the latching… trying to keep a coverlet balanced so you don’t offend the sensitivities of the people who have been staring at you since it appeared that you were getting ready to breastfeed (and, in my opinion, were just waiting to be offended) takes skill a circus performer would admire.
This is a real hot button issue for me. I got all kinds of comments about breastfeeding my daughter – from location to length (complete strangers asking me why I was still breastfeeding her at the age of 18 months like it was any of their damned business) that I gave up trying to be nice about this. Get over it people. It’s just a freaking breast. You are not going to be scarred for life by the brief unexpected glance of skin.
Shorter version of all of this nonsense:
Boobies are scary and bad.
I breastfed both of my daughters, in public and in private. I was just waiting for someone to make a rude comment, but no one ever seemed to notice – and I don’t have small boobs. Of course, I do live in New England, where we are pretty good about minding our own business.
Brian – I have a friend in OK who is a lactivist – she has 3 children all of whom breastfed for 2-3 years, and anytime a breastfeeding woman in OK was asked to cover up or go to the restroom, she and her La Leche League friends would show up at that establishment to breastfeed en masse.
smelly body fluid
Whiskey. Tango. Foxtrot. *It’s breast milk.*
What is *wrong* with these people?
SAP, thank you.
Human milk, if there is any scent to it that’s discernible by someone other than the mother who produced it, smells wonderful–faintly sweet, floral, and of course “milky”. And it tastes that way, too. Cows’ milk has nothing on the Real Thing. There’s a reason just-nursed babies have that dazed smile–they’re totally satisfied. It’s funny when they’re really tiny, because their tummies are the size of a lemon, but their appetites are boundless, so they drink until it literally trickles out of their tiny mouths, they’re so greedy.
I can only imagine those idiots must have been referring to someone in their families who ate an unbalanced, highly-processed, meat-laden diet laced with cabbage and onions and then expected her baby to nurse. Yuck.
I COMPLETELY AGREE with you shakes…..whenever someone takes offense at breastfeeding an infant, I immediately think that that person (the offended) is ICKY and GROSS and THEIR mind is full of FILTH.
Aren’t their any masterpieces from the middle ages of Mary suckling Jeesus? I suggest that all breastfeeding gals get a postcard of a picture like that, and when anyone gives them SHIT about how GROSS or OFFENSIVE it is, shove that postcard in their face and ask “DOES THIS OFFEND YOU TOOOOO??!?!?!?!?!?”
Becasue somehow I think those objecting to teh boobie are devoted, devoted I saay, to Jeesus…
Yeah, not only does breast milk not smell (at least not in any offensive way), even the dirty diapers are easier on the nose.
As for the blanket, not only is it hot, but my kids usually freaked out if I tried to cover their heads while they were eating. Anyone looking to be offended by the unexpected sight of a breast was more likely to succeed when I did cover the baby with a blanket — and the irritated baby immediately pulled it off.
I’ve been around a lot of nursing mothers, and I’ve never seen anyone “whip it out” for all the world to see. No attention whores, just mothers providing nutrition for their babies. If someone saw a nipple, it’s only because they were staring.
You don’t have to cover the poor child with a blanket (my sons would have tossed that thing away in a heartbeat).
But if you’re concerned about idiotic comments and/or simply want to nurse on the sly, it’s still really easy. You can stand a menu up on the table as a barrier. You can lift your shirt up just enough, and the baby’s head covers most of your breast. You can sit with your back to a restaurant (or crowd at the park or whatever). If you’re at the mall and you want total privacy, you can go into any maternity store or decent women’s apparel store, like Ann Taylor, and ask to borrow one of their dressing rooms; I did this often, and the managers were always incredibly supportive (some of them having been there themselves) and led me to their disabled changing room, which is bigger, with room for the stroller.
I do think plenty of people use the “Oh, it’s just so inconvenient to do it in public” thing as an excuse not to nurse.
When I was working at Toys R Us we had an entire training session on what to do if a woman was breastfeeding in the store and someone complained. How to approach the woman, what to say, how to be as polite as possible…
I kind wanted to ask “Can’t we just tell the person making the compaint to get over it?”
But I wanted to keep my job, so I didn’t.
Luckily, I never had to put the concepts into use. What I did have to put to use was the “How to deal with unruly teenagers”, which also upset me because a good 80% of the time these groups of kids my age weren’t doing anything wrong. They weren’t even mesing up the aisles or saying offensive things. They were just being loud. But apparently most parents find groups like that in their toy store to be unnerving.
The fact that they’re in a toy store, and not somewhere else doing who-knows-what actually kind of puts me at ease. I was never very good at warning them/kicking them out.
I was so happy when I quit that job.
And wouldn’t it be better for children to have a natural understanding and respect for the female body and for the processes that allowed them, as children, to grow? If people stopped treating it as taboo, it wouldn’t be any more. And the treatment of something distinctly female as offensive can only serve the male superiority complex further. It gives men one more reason to look down on women. THEY would certainly never do that!
Because, of course, they don’t have functioning tits, and so it isn’t their place to judge.
I was so happy when I quit that job.
I can understand that! I don’t enjoy being around crowds of noisy children at all (especially not when I’m going home after a long day and my brain is fried), but I recognize it’s me that’s lost my tolerance for it. I don’t conclude there’s anything inherently evil in a group of children being boistrous (& a bit clueless about it).
Costa Rica has (small) billboard advertisements at some of the bus stops, with a photo a lot like that magazine cover, and the words, “Gracias Mamá!”
I had my first daughter here. Costa Ricans breastfeed in public without, as far as I know, anybody taking offense. So when I had my second in the US, I was comfortable doing the same.
As someone pointed out during the airline breastfeeding flap, that’s what boobs are for! To nourish children!
Christ in a sidecar! The world has just gone absolutely nuts!
maurinsky, La Leche League rocks! I was just thinking after I commented earlier how their support and literature were instrumental in my being as militant as I was about breastfeeding.
If you’d told me back then that 29 years later, it would still be an uphill battle to get mothers to nurse and to convince the public that nursing wasn’t something to hide, I’d have said you were crazy!! How utterly sad that we’re in this place.
I myself don’t really have a problem with public breast feeding, but I’m surprised that no one brought this up: video cameras and freaks.
Remember, we live in a nation where if you wear thong panties and a skirt, your ass could end up all over the ‘net…. literally. And yes, there are people out there who get off on the lactation thing……
Until all the freaks are locked up, I don’t think I’d breastfeed in public. I’ve had one too many run-ins with perverts out there. =/
And yes, there are people out there who get off on the lactation thing……
There are people out there who, as someone said earlier, get off on your feet if you’re a woman. You cannot afford to alter your behavior because some weirdo, or a lot of weirdos, threaten to have an orgasm over it.
As for expressing milk and giving it by bottle, it is asserted by some that the reason Darwin moved the breasts from the abdomen to the torso in humans is that we need our heads to be conditioned by the toroidal electromagnetic pulsations of our mothers’ hearts, because a stage of brain development occurs after birth that would occur *after* birth if our heads weren’t so huge. The E-M pulses of the heart guide and condition proper development of the postnatal brain. The bottle strategy doesn’t account for this. (Those interested may find more on this in the writings of Joseph Chilton Pearce, particularly _Evolution’s End_ and the two more recent titles.)
These people who think the world’s going to end if our mammalian nature is directly proved may have missed out on some of this finish-level brain development.
I note that both this terror of tit-pocalypse and a strange obsession with HUGE breasts seems to emanate from the good ol’ US of A. I’m sure Apple Pie fits in somewhere too.
-F.
Arrrgh!!!
because a stage of brain development occurs after birth that would occur before birth if our heads weren’t so huge.
“Is it too much to ask for you to look away if it bothers you that much?”
Well, yes, occasionally. It depends on how much of my field of vision the sight occupies, as well as how much freedom of movement I have. And it doesn’t bother me that much. To put it in a non-sexual context, it bothers me about as much as an inappropriately loud and/or personal cell phone conversation would. Stay out of my business, and do me the courtesy of allowing me to stay out of yours.
Also, I didn’t mean literally that throwing a cloth over the baby is the best and only way to be discrete, only that that was the level of effort I was asking to be put into discretion’s sake. If discretion requires too much more than that, so much for discretion.
And I don’t fault Maggie Gyllenhaal at all. The only failure of discretion there was on the part of the photographer and the publisher. Just like I don’t fault Britney Spears for going clubbing without underpants; it’s not her fault there are people willing to take pictures of her genitals should they become momentarily visible and others willing to look at them.
Congratulations! Now that you have that magazine cover on your site, you too will get a half a dozen hits a day from people looking for that photo!
I know, because I blogged a post about it last August, and it is one of the biggest draw cards.
The world is a bizzare place.
Women who react with horror at women who react with horror at public breastfeeding infuriate ME endlessly. They want to force their view point – that there is absolutely nothing wrong with whipping out your tit in public – at everyone and god help you if you feel otherwise. They are almost alway those sudo-hippies who wear Birkenstocks, long skirts, tank tops and no bras, don’t shave anything, don’t wear deoderant, don’t believe in marriage, don’t believe in God, and feel sorry for you if you do believe in God and marriage. They beleive every woman (no matter how fat or ugly) is beautiful, every part of a woman is beautiful (even hairy armpits), breast feeding is beautiful, periods are beautiful, giving birth, with all the fluids, screaming, pain, and the whole – a kid is popping out through my fully exposed pussy – is beautiful, and so on. Honestly, they are enough to drive me right around the frigging bend! I wonder, do you like when I imagine how you must be? Let me tell you something, I’m a divorced mother of 2. I nursed my 2 kids till they were 14 months. I’m pro-choice, I voted to allow stem-cell research, I hate people who don’t want to allow same-sex marriages, I’m a Democrat, I believe marriage is beautiful (though mine wasn’t!), and, get this, I’m atheist, but I think it’s great that peolpe go to churches and synagogues and temples and any other places of worship. I don’t lump them all as Bible thumping freaks. And as for public breastfeeding, KEEP IT AT HOME! Sorry honey, it ain’t beautiful. I don’t want to see it. The kid is not gonna starve so don’t even play that excuse. Now, I am not that ultra-coservative, Jesus-freak prude you think we all are, but if you still think I am, then you are a smelly hippie who needs to put down your hashish, clean-up and allow for some of us to have a difference of opinion. You “breastfeeding is beautiful” freaks are really a tiresome lot.