Chuck Norris, culture warrior part 2 (and three!)

Last week Chuck promised us the second installment in his series on exposing The Truth(tm)! about the sinister Atheist Agenda(tm). True to his word, he has delivered the second installment–and the third! Apparently there isn’t enough….”Truth(tm)!”…to his exposé to warrant a complete third column. Shocking.

If you recall, in his first column he covered who the enemies of Christianity are:

[…] the Institute for Humanist Studies, Secular Coalition of America, American Atheists, American Humanist Association, Internet Infidels, the Atheist Alliance International, Secular Student Alliance, Society for Humanistic Judaism, Freedom From Religion Foundation, Military Association of Atheists and Freethinkers, etc. Of course no list of atheistic advocates would be complete without mentioning the ACLU and Planned Parenthood, as well as the anti-God militancy of men like Richard Dawkins and Sam Harris.

He showed us that the first part of the Agenda regarding “outlawing Christianity” involves erasing Chuck’s deity from everywhere. His evidence for this was money, pledges, one atheist in office, and legislation to make it easier for law enforcement to deter violence against people.

Now Chuck lets the world in on how the Evil Atheist Conspiracy sucks in the young and impressionable–YouTube! Yes, YouTube is a master tool in the EAC:

Step two: target younger generations with atheism

Atheists are making a concerted effort to win the youth of America and the world. Hundreds of web sites and blogs on the Internet seek to convince and convert adolescents, endeavoring to remove any residue of theism from their minds and hearts by packaging atheism as the choice of a new generation. While you think your kids are innocently surfing the Web, secular progressives are intentionally preying on their innocence and naïveté.

[…]

YouTube, the most popular video site on the Net for young people, is one of their primary avenues for passing off their secularist propaganda. Another antagonistic and self-proclaimed “blasphemous” site even beckons youth to record their anti-Christian beliefs on it.

The site Chuck references is: Blasphemy Challenge and the “it” in the above sentence is YouTube.

I don’t recall seeing any Atheist “propaganda” on YouTube but I do recall seeing Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron discuss bananas and peanut butter (under a title called “Atheist’s Nightmare”, no less). I guess Chuck didn’t use the “search” feature on YouTube either, as the word “sermon” gives pages and pages of religious hits.

And the “Hundreds of web sites and blogs on the Internet seek to convince and convert adolescents…”, Chuck? Seriously? Do we want to go there with The Google? Because we can…

Google search: atheist teens In order:

BeliefNet, Secular Teens Discussion Board

List of teen atheist discussion groups on Yahoo Groups

Directory listing of articles about atheism under a “religion & spirituality” section which is under a “people and society” section which is under a “kids and teens” section.

A brief column written on about.com asking “What’s Wrong with Non-Religious Teens?”

Amazon’s page of books about Atheism in the teen book category

The Atheist/Agnostic Teen group on MySpace

Very sinister, those teen-led discussion groups and Amazon with its books and that random dude on About.com! Those are some sites designed to “remove any residue of theism from their minds and hearts by packaging atheism as the choice of a new generation”, yes they are.

Just for fun, of course, let’s try:

Google search: christian teens. In order:

Christian Teens; which is “A great source of fun and information for Christian teens and adults alike!”

About.com’s Christian teen page

Christianity Today’s site for teens; “To help Christian high school and early college students navigate adolescence with their faith intact.”

Christian Teen Corner; a site “where Christian teenagers can be encouraged, challenged by God’s Word and receive biblical advice.”

Advice for teens using a biblical perspective

Teen Q’s; self-described as a place to get “accurate answers to your questions about life, the Bible, religion and more”.

Looking through those sites, they seems pretty bent on packaging Christianity as “the choice of a new generation”. Well, you know, maybe Chuck just hasn’t heard of Google. So let’s move on to Step Three!

Step three: package and promote atheism as reasonable and scientific

His entire scope of “evidence” for this is: Richard Dawkins. His entire argument is “Dawkins sucks! Jesus Rulezzz Bitchezzz! The End.”

He spends a few paragraphs maligning people for believing anything a scientist says (and that Dawkins sucks!) and then quotes an astronomer saying something about believing in god as proof that the Bible is correct.

And that’s it. Chuck Norris’ proof about The Truth(tm)! of how the Atheist Agenda(tm) is going to “outlaw” Christianity is, in full: money, pledges, one atheist congressperson, hate crime legislation, YouTube, and Richard Dawkins.

Me thinks Chuck took one too many kicks to the head.

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19 responses to “Chuck Norris, culture warrior part 2 (and three!)

  1. For someone who made his career as an enforcer, he sure is good at playing the victim.

  2. Chromosome Crawl

    Teh Stupid – it burns!!!!

  3. Nadai

    Suppose, purely for the sake of argument, that there is an atheist cabal bent on seducing impressionable young people away from Christianity. How exactly would this be different from the godbotherers who knocked on my door all the frigging time I was in college and tried to convince me to believe their crap?

    Back when I was a kid, telling someone “you can dish it out but not take it” was one of the most devastating insults available. Now, apparently, it’s a way of life.

  4. oddjob

    Methinks Norris is an action hero actor because his body responds better to discplined training than his mind does.

  5. Ain’t it awesome how all these christians are shitting the bed over the threat from atheism? You’d almost think that the Congress was full of atheists, and that secularists were openly running for the Presidency and legislating from the bench and supporting a Constitutional amendment to outlaw all religion. Yeah. Can’t wait for that to happen.

  6. Joey

    As an agnostic, I think Chucky made a great case for us. Atheism is a weak alternative, does presume too much upon “what’s behind the curtain,” and cannot be defended scientifically–as any other metaphysical belief cannot. Dawkins has something to learn from profs like Davies and science writers like Horgan. Dawkins is definitely over-rated right now. As an astronomy major, I believe Chuck made some great points. I’m surprised he knows as much as he does. Not enough know about the work of Horgan and Davies–who have been working metaphysics far before Dawkins came on the scene.

  7. mac

    He spends a few paragraphs maligning people for believing anything a scientist says (and that Dawkins sucks!) and then quotes an astronomer saying something about believing in god as proof that the Bible is correct.

    So he’s saying he’s a dumbass for believing that astronomer?

  8. oddjob

    Joey’s point is more easily understood if you know that Dawkins is not an astronomer, but an evolutionary biologist. Joey’s pointing out that there are limits to what we know, and confidently asserting science conclusively demonstrates there’s no creator is a false statement, but one made by many atheists all the time.

  9. mac

    This often gets misconstrued because science can in fact prove interpretation of scripture to be false. This results in the common misconception that science and fatih are at odds.

    St Thomas Aquinas did much to clarify the falacy of this in his work that lead to the “Baptism of Arstotle” as it is sometimes refered. He was at risk of being deemed a heretic, but reason won the day and with the help of Albertus Maximus paved the way for modern science.

  10. evilchemistry

    Atheism is a weak alternative, does presume too much upon “what’s behind the curtain,” and cannot be defended scientifically—as any other metaphysical belief cannot.

    Excuse me, who presumes? For the last time, atheism is not a belief system. I don’t give a rat’s ass what your “written by a christian white man” dictionary tells you. You will hear such tripe from many believers/agnostics “all the time”.

    Look, just because “some atheist” states that science has disproven the existence of deities doesn’t make it so and frankly you should know better. Aren’t atheists told all the time that not all christian evangelical believers are bible thumpers?

    Also, science is a tool at the disposal of all humankind. Don’t ask the atheist to find proof of a deity, it is not their burden. As it stands, there is no scientific data to show the existence of a god(s).

  11. I’d also like to add that Dawkins, at least in The God Delusion never says definitively that God does not exist. He does say it’s highly unlikely and that the world around us, rather than showing evidence of design, shows more evidence of a lack of a God. But “Chucky” and others with an ax to grind against vocal atheists tend to miss the subtle difference.

  12. “How exactly would this be different from the godbotherers who knocked on my door all the frigging time I was in college and tried to convince me to believe their crap?”

    What really drives the theology thumpers crazy when they go door to door is to, instead of staying quiet and hoping they’ll go away, make it obvious you know they’re outside, and then let them know by cranking up the volume on any tv’s or stereos that are on at the time

    Oh sure, they knock repeatedly, but it drives ’em crazy when the volume increases noticeably every time they knock or ring the bell

  13. PortlyDyke

    I’m with Misty on this one — all I need to say to the missionary at my doorstep is:

    “So, Chuck Norris is speaking for you guys, now — right? Okay — bye!”

  14. mac

    Also, science is a tool at the disposal of all humankind. Don’t ask the atheist to find proof of a deity, it is not their burden.

    Nor is it the burden of science, to prove or disprove the existance of deity.

    As you say, it is a tool at the disposal of all humankind. Unfortunately theists and atheists alike, often misuse and abuse it for the attempted purpose of supporting their beliefs or non-beliefs as the case may be.

    Science is a thing of this world; of material and time and space. Using science in an attempt to prove or disprove the existance of anything beyond that is a misapplication thereof.

  15. Arkades

    It’s funny… back in the 80s, I don’t remember an air of heartfelt spirituality radiating from Chuck Norris’ action films. I just remember that they were dizzyingly violent, and that the answer to any problem seemed to be find a guy tough enough to kick ass until said problem goes away.

    That, and particularly enjoying any scene that featured him shirtless. I used to stare and marvel at how exceptionally hairy he is.

    I’m guessing neither of those was quite the intended message, huh?

  16. Kate217

    As a member of the “Evil Atheist Conspiracy” (wouldn’t that be a great name for a band?), I can tell you that our only objective is to keep faith in the realm of the believers (i.e. out of legislation).

    I couldn’t give a rat’s fart about whether there’s a creche in front of the school. The main problem I have with that is that many self-proclaimed “good Christians” have an apoplexy when said school also allows a menorah or adds a copy of Harry Potter to the school library or asks kids to wear costumes for halloween. So many fundamentalists don’t want freedom of religious expression, they want freedom of their own religious expression.

    Feel free to believe in God, or Allah, or Buddah, or Gaia, or Satan, or Cthulu, or the freaking Flying Spaghetti Monster as far as I’m concerned. Just don’t advocate legislation that makes me live by your beliefs.

    If you believe same-sex marriage is wrong, don’t marry someone of your own sex. If you believe that pre-maritial/extra-marital sex is immoral, don’t indulge in it. If you believe that life begins at conception rather than at viability, don’t have an abortion.

    The hubris inherent in trying to legislate those beliefs is breathtaking. Didn’t God say “judgement is Mine?”

  17. mac

    Damn straight Kate.

    To legislate values and force people to make the right choices by the bullying force of law only arrests the spiritual development of the entire nation. Which after all is the fundy theocrats’ goal.

    They do not want you to have to (or be able to?) think about these things . They would love to see the country’s ability to question beliefs and values, people’s ability to make their own value judgements, completely atrophy.

  18. Feel free to believe in God, or Allah, or Buddah, or Gaia, or Satan, or Cthulu, or the freaking Flying Spaghetti Monster as far as I’m concerned. Just don’t advocate legislation that makes me live by your beliefs.

    Thank you. /Stewie

    Great. Chuck Norris is a Whacko. Oh well, he makes a good meme.

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